Z390chipset, i9 9900k i79700k and i5

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    https://hwbot.org/submission/4065354_

    That is my team mate. He said also the surface area of a 9900K is tiny & alot of heat output. So for 1.5V @ 55x it goes 20deg positive on single stage. :thumbdn: He has the best SS in the world also
    Headin has confirmed also 9900K & his is reliable for 51x watercooling. My ambient temp are more than him in Qld.

    I can do 54x well 8086K. So that's 5.4 x 6 = 32.4 9940x gets me 4.8 x 14 = 67.2 vs the 9900K 5.1 x 8 = 40.8
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    Average benchmark comparisons show that the 9940X has roughly 60% higher integer and fp multicore performance.

    Also, it lets you do this:

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    It's also $2000 just for the CPU.
     
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    Right, so he only bought the one.

    Seriously though, clearly he's aiming for a unique goal which is to get the absolute highest benchmark, not put together the best multicore system for normal desktop use on a budget. The 9900X is not as good as the 9940X for that purpose.
     
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    I recently found some interesting insight on ASUS Maximus XI Series voltage detection from ASUS R&D Engineer Bing:


    This seemed to spark some controversy as your 'good' 9900K binned via a Maximus XI series motherboard maybe is not so good in reality when you put it back to other board such as Maximus X Apex :Paranoid:
     
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    I am working on a review of the Gene at the moment, and went through the same process chatting with my Asus contact.

    Basically, the Maximus XI series use what is socket sense for the voltage readings. In the past, it has been Die-Sense which goes through extra relays. The Z170 MOCF used this same sensor reading, so it's not a new thing.

    Sure, it will show or seem to need less voltage, but when you boil it all down, it ends up requiring the same real voltage regardless.
     
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    Pretty sure it is the opposite, from watching the video Bing from ASUS explained Maximus XI series motherboard read its voltage via Die-Sense which provides far more accurate voltage reading compare to the traditional socket sense which is what other motherboards do. I agree they are the same real voltage after all but I wonder why ASUS did not advertise this considering it is an improvement :D
     
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    *running to check my notes*

    Correct. I was the wrong way around. Teach me to check my facts before commenting.

    Do you feel it’s really an improvement? It only helps give a clearer actual reading, there is no real benefit to real voltage needed.

    Where it is better though is LLC8 on XI boards is a near perfect voltage (ie, bugger all droop) where on Maximus X boards, LLC6 even overshoots. LLC8 is stupid and LLC5 gives a small droop.

    That in itself is winning in my opinion.
     
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    What is the current price in AUS for a 9900k? I can get for $690sgd in Taiwan ($717aud). I don't know where people price check in AUS now.
     
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    Still over 800AUD even if you source it from Newegg, I got my 9900K around 3200CNY (~$670 AUD) when I was in China but it is an OEM one. If it is a retail 9900K then it is pretty good.
     
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    It's a retail box, so yeah sounds like a good price then. Just got to decide what I'm gonna do :(
     
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    Correct. :) A processor to do team scores, not personal use. 9900x hmm more turned of defective cores. :( Either 10,12,14 tough deciding.
    So hot yesterday I'm running as a 9900K 8c16t for comparisons, 2x ram sticks only & no where near fine tuned in stark Evga bios :Paranoid:
    Note I don't care for low volt tuning, I'm pulled down from 5Ghz in the Evga OC app. High Ambient.

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    Lets get this one out of the way shall we :) My purchase is about the most grunt, less heat.
    https://hwbot.org/user/nata_58/

    This guy is a sensational overclocker. he's done the 3D scores with a 9900K @ 52x 1.4V. As Headin tests his 9900K, I cannot cool it.
    He has volt modded gpu's, I'm not doing that to mine.
    So if you decide you want good scores, match him 9900K ... there is no way on this earth you will beat his scores.
    How much time will you spend fine tuning? 3hrs? More? Still will hit under the mark.
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    Yeah it's a no more time thing :tired: do some good scores before I'm too old & fuKKed to care about it
     
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    Like 10 minutes. I'm over it now, I just want to watch Youtube on my 9900K
     
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    got a pic handy of your rig shane? im keen to see what a mad scientists lab looks like ;D
    how are you liking the HoF ram?
     

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